Dating Conservative Women

What does Troy D think about conservative women? Find out throughout this entire article!

Dating conservative women is something that a lot of men want to ask about but rarely gets any air time in the dating community. Many have the idea of the stunning, model-type girl as the type of women to go for with the skills they learn here, but the unspoken truth is that almost 85% of beginners in this game would prefer dating a conservative girl to begin with, and for good reason.

Why I Wanted Conservative Women in the First Place:

When I started and I wasn’t that good with women I too had the idea that maybe the best place to start was to get conservative women first. They’re cute, always smiling, and would probably make nice trophy girlfriends, I said to myself. Back then I didn’t have the power of choice, so I thought that was truly the best option. Heck, I was surrounded by friends who were conservative women. Given my limited skills, I thought that out of all the types of girls in the world, I had better chances with these types of women. There was no way I could get the popular girls nor the cheerleaders back then; it felt like they were so out of reach.

I still remember going gaga over this one girl (that the other geeks went gaga for). She was one of the top girls in the class who had a charming smile. It almost felt like “unlocking her” was the goal for me. She wasn’t outspoken at all and was always busy (maintaining her very high grades at school) and that made me mesmerized because I thought at the time that having such high grades was so attractive. Nowadays book smart only women turn me off completely. Of course, I failed in getting her (competing with the geeks), and eventually had evolved into “2002” Troy Dizon who was able to get better women. I stopped looking for conservative girls for a good two years, and during that time dating “grown up” street smart women I learned to be dominant, outspoken, exciting, etc. etc.

After my “player years” of 2002-2004 I decided to settle with a “good girl” to avoid all the drama and unpredictability of the world I was in. As always I turned to none other than cute conservative girls for options. At this time I already had some success with women, so getting another conservative girl was easy: I just became my usual outspoken and action-packed self, and it was in the bag. I found one that was prettier, smarter, and well.. maybe a bit more vocal than the rest of the pack. She also had a nice, shapely body which was a bonus on top of everything.

A Change of Heart

A few months later, my interest for conservative women died out. I was dead bored. I was always expected to start a conversation, introduce some new lifestyle activity, and well, the sex was pretty dull. It was almost like I was training my own girlfriend, it seemed. I loved the feeling of getting mutual agreement from women, but having it done all the time was not exciting at all.  Life with her became such a routine filled with basically the same activities and rarely new, unpredictable ones.  A few weeks after we had broken it off and I had met someone who had the looks, was smart, sexy, BUT someone who had a stronger, multi dimensional character, that was it for me. The energy was different, the conversations were different… more importantly SHE had a lot to contribute to the relationship, in terms of fresh new things to do, people to meet, and so on and so forth. I never looked back from that point.

THE VERDICT: It was Really about ME in the First Place

I found out that getting conservative women was just a way for me to feel good about myself because I felt more dominant when I was with them. Way back then I was an insecure, weak guy and like many who take our programs now,I thought that the first step to get a level higher was to get a woman that was “lower,” in the form of conservative women. Yes, it feels great for a moment, but trust me when I say the feeling dies out. When it dies out, you’ll be wondering how the heck you can get a better girl with the skill set that you didn’t develop over that time period.

I just finished a live camp recently and my client (an Asian) himself later realized that most conservative women basically have nothing much to offer, other than that momentary “feeling” of dominance when he’s with them. Outside of that he was the same weak guy that could not assert himself if the women he met were not conservative. He was also constantly intimidated by outgoing and assertive women (and men). It was just his comfort zone, and that wasn’t helpful at all.

So what’s my take on dating conservative women? If you’re young, do it momentarily. Get it off your system if you just need that couple of months to lead and feel dominant, but don’t buy into the illusion. Being with a conservative woman for so long will eventually stunt your growth process. What is best is to find someone that is a little bit of both worlds: she’s a good girl, but she can also be refreshingly daring. Challenge yourself. You deserve more than that.

If you feel what I’m saying or if you agree or disagree with what I’m saying, feel free to comment on this post below. I’d love to know what you think.



PS: The new SINGAPORE Masterclass is up on the live program schedule for 2012, specifically on March 9-11. While I expect having it easy with the conservative girls over there (more “doing nothing” lol), I expect my clients there to get the proper training in having solid interactions with women who are more assertive, sexy and street smart.

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11 Comments to “Dating Conservative Women”

  1. By carl, December 7, 2011 @ 3:48 pm

    great article that really hits the spot! its like you said about staying in your comfort zone. I think most guys who get attracted by these girls just need to dig deeper for quality girls in their circle or from places you’ll meet more assertive women. THanks troy for the reminder!

  2. By Marvel2185, December 7, 2011 @ 8:00 pm

    Dude, I was just talking about this with Mr. A4 the other day. I’ve never genuinely been attracted to the shy/quiet type girl past a general surface level. That’s ultimately part of why I broke up with my ex last year; I gave it an honest shot but it just wasn’t working for me. Over the past months I’ve had to switch things up a bit and get myself into environments and around women that are more aggressive/outgoing/sassy etc. which is totally my type. The problem I started to notice is that when I went out, especially to normal clubs/lounges etc., I’d end up attracting the shyer/quieter types, some of which fooled me b/c I ended up meeting their “drunk” personality which I thought was their natural demeanor – outgoing, aggressive, etc. So lately I’ve learned to be a bit more patient and actually quieter/more observant initially to see who’s naturally more my type in the group instead of coming in, dropping a huge charm bomb, and then not being able to weed out the quiet from the outgoing since everyone becomes super engaged.

    And not to knock those out there that are attracted to the conservative girl. I think at the end of the day some people just like conservatism and whether it be a reflection of self-esteem or an affirmation of what they value in another person/how they grew up and viewed worthwhile relationships as being, I think that’s fine. I think a lot of people enjoy predictability and certainly fine comfort and stability in it. At the end of the day we all just have to admit to ourselves what our type is, not be distracted by the temporarily attractive alternative, and stay the course 😉

  3. By JD, December 8, 2011 @ 2:09 am

    Dude i was thinking about this yesterday! i noticed that i’ve always gone for the girls that show interest in me first.. i’ve always been intimidated by the outgoing “fun” girls because it felt like they had more options and i was less likely to be their best

    With my ex i was very dominant but when it came to women (or even men) i thought were better than me i would revert back to my old bad habits
    good article!

  4. By ian L., December 8, 2011 @ 2:10 am

    I agree. I had a conservative girlfriend before and our relationship only lasted for one month. I broke up with her cause I got fed up that I was the one always telling stories, introducing new people to her life, initiating new activities and always leading and making decisions while she was just contented with just listening to me talk and agree all the time. I felt like it didn’t matter what I said cause she will agree to all of it. She didn’t contribute anything to the relationship except for sexual stuff like blowjobs, and letting me touch her body parts. I chose not to have sex with her though cause I felt that by doing that, it might be harder for me to break up with her cause i’ve been thinking about it for a while back then and I didn’t want to take anything from her cause I know that she’s really serious about me.(she’s always talking about the future and having kids and that really freaked me out lol). So I broke up with her and moved on with my life but It was really painful to do that cause she cried a lot for hours. Anyway, it was after the break up that I realized that a relationship should be like a business partnership where everyone contributes assets/capital to the partnership so that the business partnership won’t die. Both man and woman should contribute in a relationship so that the fire in a relationship won’t die and both people can look forward in doing exciting stuff together. Awesome article Troy! This article proved that my thoughts at that time were not entirely wrong after all. :)

  5. By Gel O. Shot, December 8, 2011 @ 3:05 am

    You make a great point when you say that people go for the conservative woman with the idea that she’ll be easier to dominate than that outgoing woman, and that she won’t be as intimidating, and that that that kind of mentality has to get washed away from the dating guy’s mindset as soon as possible.

    But to be fair, I mean, if you’re the guy who looks at a conservative woman and say to yourself: “she’s the one I want to get to know”, then why not? As long as you know what you want, and you know why you want it (people sometimes forget this part), that solves a lot of your problems with women. And a relationship is just as much about finding out more of yourself, what you like, and don’t like, its a sifting mechanism as well. Its a form of growth as you go, dating different women, learning what you want and don’t want in a partner.

    Ultimately, that’s what relationships are about. Growth. Conservative or not (and yeah, there’s a higher probability for this to happen with a conservative woman, though there are always exceptions.), if you’re not growing, then the relationship isn’t working. You should go after the women you want, just always be aware of yourself, and make sure that you like them for the right reasons.

  6. By SiJ, December 8, 2011 @ 4:29 am

    At 30 years old, I am in the transition stage to wanting to have lots of sexual flings with those stunning model types. However, I also sometimes want CONSERVATIVE model-types because I am getting old and have to get a committed relationship that will lead to marriage. My definition of a conservative woman is a girl who doesn’t party, doesn’t flirt around, physically moves with grace and will never cheat with her bf. Ironically, I have no problems making out with women whom I know are in formal relationships.

    My problem with the conservative women I hang out with is that they either

    (1)RESIST to have sex with me until we get a bf-gf commitment
    (2) if I do get them in bed, they are not aggressive enough. They just kind of lie down and let me do the work

    I believe I am wise enough to know that I don’t want conservative women to boost my ego.
    I actually dated a 5’7’ woman who has Greek blood in her (I’m 5’4), teaches gradeschool and an active member of YOUTH FOR CHRIST. I stopped dating her for some of these reasons:

    · I felt I was too volatile for her, that I will cheat on her during my party sprees
    · She “might” be too passive in bed
    · Her conservatism actually made her boring in conversations…..Yes she was single dimensional..No fun, excitement and energy.

    You’re right Troy….We want the best of both worlds!

  7. By JEFF T-PAIN, December 8, 2011 @ 4:54 am

    Good read man, I’m currently dating pretty much a 180 of the conservative girl. It’s crazy at times, but definitely worth it. It’s been fun seeing 20 guys hit on her each time we go out and then watching their faces when she leaves with me. #winning

    • By admin, December 8, 2011 @ 6:20 am

      WINNING. Absolutely WINNING.

  8. By Shane Groove, December 9, 2011 @ 4:28 am

    Sweet article Troy! I think at the end we really want a women who can be our best team mate. We want someone who challenges us, we makes us better and allows us to explore the day with together. Completely agree of the appeal of dating someone “safe” like a conservative girl, but that fun will die. Thanks for sharing bro!

  9. By Red, December 11, 2011 @ 1:20 pm

    I definitely feel what you’re saying buddy

  10. By Clyde Samson, December 26, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

    ok..I’m gonna stop thinking about my past relationships now..Thanks Mr. Troy!!!! :)

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